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    Default PAW600 have FSAPDS?

    Even though they were innovative in recognizing and exploiting the advantages of this technology, it may not have originated with the Soviets.
    Before and during World War II, the Germans were separately developing both the smoothbore antitank gun,8-cm PAW or PWK8H63, and fin-stabilized, discarding-sabot (FSDS)projectiles.”.” The Germans had developed this type of projectile after experience with spin-stabilized,discarding-sabot ammunition which was under development by the firms of Bochumer Verein, Rheinmetall Borsig and Firma Stock.” “ They realized that the APFSDS gave a better, faster, and longer trajectory as well as increased penetration capability because of the length of the projectile.” The Germans developed this type of ammunition for long-range artillery, antiaircraft
    guns, concrete penetrators, and quite possibly armor penetration
    ---Soviet kinetic energy penetrators Armor november-december 1978
    Someone have pic about it?

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    Are you refewrring to a particular publication of 1978?
    Who published it and is it possible to view it?
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    I think 81mmL/105 use APFSDS
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    Thanks!
    Now I wonder as I do not recall any APFSDS types which were supposedly used in an AT role. Maybe this was concluded from the Röchling designs which were used against heavy bunkers?
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    Why not peenemünde pfeilgeschosse?But i never saw PPG for PAW
    And...WWII German had another APFSDS?

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    The PAW being recoilless would make little sense as for Vo which is crucial in such systems. This is why they usually worked with HEAT projectiles (still today).
    To what I saw in the past 30 years (docs and specimen) there is no confirmed APFSDS in the anti tank role. Plenty of APDS though.
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    What about 81mmL/105?V0=1000MPS
    And i need KE ammo pic for it

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    No Idea, you have images/drawings?
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    Ok, if the text is from this very source just forget it all. People there seem not to have the slightest clue what they are talking about.
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