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  1. #1
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    Default Can you tell me about my 15cm Sprg.Gr. Navy.

    I am a long time collector of German firearms and recently bought an 8.8cm, which spiraled out of control into a few big cases and shells. Haha

    Anyways Id like to know more about this. No real reason for it to be in Canada. I think it’s temarked by ISA or Norway maybe? The numbers match on all the main parts and all have naval Waffenamts. It’s empty. The colour is darker the. It appears in the photos.

    Hopefully it is rare enough to justify what I paid. Haha but I love it just the same. Thanks for any assistance.




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    As you say, these got refurbished and repainted in Norway. Too bad they added their own stamps.
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    Do you or anyone else know when they surplus’d them? I think they mothballed most coastal bases in 50/60s. In some regard, it adds some provenance. Made in Germany, shipped to a coastal base or ship in Norway, where at wars end they were taken. Where as some would have zero story. In Canada, these items seldom turn up.

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    You wanna make a piece of ammo look interesting? .......cut it!

    Looking for / Suche noch:
    -8,8cm Pzgr.40.

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    Very nice cutaways!

    what does your C/38 fuse look like from the bottom? Is mine missing and I have just a plug?

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    These could have been in use in Norway well into the 1990s. One would need to check the lot dates of refurbished fuzes. These became available in about 2008 or so and were brought to Europe by a well known Dutch dealer. From there they went to collectors.

    It is not 100% clear if Norway only had stocks from remaining German stocks inside Norway or if they got more after 1945 (from Germany and other occupied zones) when all war capture was distributed to all those who claimed something.
    Ich suche Wissen!

    SCIENTIA POTENTIA EST!

    Wer nichts weiß muss alles glauben!

    Und wer toleriert uns?

    Studiert den Hooton-Plan, den Kaufman-Plan und den Morgenthau-Plan!

    Ich bin verantwortlich für das was ich sage, nicht dafür was jemand anders versteht!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UkmhtoXCPA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aw9aRyjLcI

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    Thank you. This is great information.

    Another question, what guns would have used these? Any 15cm? Which boats were potentially armed with these?

    so comparing to the the cutaways shown in the other thread, my Type appears to penetrate then explode and the other type hits and explodes?

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    Correct, yours is called (translated) High explosive shell with base fuze. It's a semi armour piecing shell that explodes after having pierced the target, in contrast to the shell with the nose fuze that explodes straight on impact. The semi armour piercing shell has a hardened nose of the shell body.
    As it however does not have a piercing cap , it's no an armour piercing shell.
    Regards, DJH
    You wanna make a piece of ammo look interesting? .......cut it!

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    Base fuze C/38 looks like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianAR View Post
    Thank you. This is great information.

    Another question, what guns would have used these? Any 15cm? Which boats were potentially armed with these?

    so comparing to the the cutaways shown in the other thread, my Type appears to penetrate then explode and the other type hits and explodes?


    Here no boats but coastal artillery.
    Ich suche Wissen!

    SCIENTIA POTENTIA EST!

    Wer nichts weiß muss alles glauben!

    Und wer toleriert uns?

    Studiert den Hooton-Plan, den Kaufman-Plan und den Morgenthau-Plan!

    Ich bin verantwortlich für das was ich sage, nicht dafür was jemand anders versteht!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UkmhtoXCPA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aw9aRyjLcI

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