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    Default Austro-Hungarian 7 cm(66 mm)Danubian Flottila's Monitor guns

    Hoi!
    I would like to collect all detailed info about this - Austro-Hungarian 7 cm (66 mm) Danubian Flottila's Monitor guns - gun and its amunitions.

    I little bit confused!
    The following guns were possible:
    http://www.webpark.cz/rakuherarmada/zbrane.htm#top (See table: Děla Škoda válečného námořnictva )
    7 cm L/18
    7 cm L/26
    7 cm L/30
    7 cm L/42
    7 cm L/45
    7 cm L/50
    Had all the same ammunition?
    The 7 cm L/42 gun had 424 mm lenght case.
    I know the L/42 had this king of ammos:
    AP or "general" shell - http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/...0/pages/07.htm
    Shooting table: http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/...images/T05.jpg

    Shrapnel - http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/...0/pages/08.htm
    Shooting table:
    http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/...images/T06.jpg

    Canister shot - http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/...0/pages/09.htm

    - Here is the full article http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/199202/920210.htm in Hungaian language -

    But this topic: http://www.worldwar.it/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1922 say: there is also possible a 428 mm lenght case. Maybe for the L/45 or L/50 guns !?

    What was used for the others? (7 cm L/18; 7 cm L/26; 7 cm L/30) Has anybody know it?

    Any info and pictures - including cases as well - will be very good!

    THX for your the further help!
    GA

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    ciao

    It's a big problem, no manuals or any other about austrian artillery ww1,
    I found cases 428mm long, bottle neked, I think for 7cm L/42,
    but I think.........

    and, I think there are its shell......

    maybe 428mm and 424mm it's an error of typing???? or conversion by inch-centimeter??
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    Default cases

    Hoi Fert!

    Here is a case with the following dimensions:
    overall lenght: 424 mm
    base (1st rim) diameter: 94 mm
    1st rim thickness: 3,5 mm
    2nd rim diameter: 86 mm
    2nd rim thickness: 4 mm
    shoulder lenght from the base: approx 347 mm
    neck lenght: approx 40 mm
    mouth diameter: 67 mm
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    Default Re: cases

    This case is the same as this link http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/...0/pages/07.htm shows! This link is also show your 7 cm shell with the small fuse!

    Your another shell has big Skoda fuse. Maybe you can find here the drawing: http://blazeold.ath.cx/viewtopic.php?t=3009

    Facts:
    no1:I know the L/50 gun had double drivingband shells. but I don't know the case type. Maybe your 428 mm long case? It really has shoulder?

    no2: The above described case was used for the L/42 guns. Fitted with the double or the single driving band shells?

    no3: The single driving band shell surely was used for the L/26 guns. Its shells drivingband distance from the base is 33 mm! But I think it used a shorter case because the gun's barrel lenght was only the half of the L/50. Or reduced charge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fert
    ciao

    It's a big problem, no manuals or any other about austrian artillery ww1,
    Look at this.
    http://blazeold.ath.cx/viewtopic.php?t=3010
    Maybe help!

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    Hello to all,

    If can help : I know an other model of 7 cm Austrian WW1, but sorry no
    informations on the shells used with :

    The case is 66 x 494 R straight case : the headstamp is
    WEISS BUDAPEST 1912

    Regards,
    K12E

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    @K12E: Could you send me pictures about it? And some detailed measurements will be nice to make drawing about it!
    Thanks in advance!

    Here is a "new" type 66x365R!
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    OK I will do, just let me a little time !!



    Regards,
    K12E

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    Pictures of a 66 x 494 R Austria case dated 1912 :

    Diameter : 1: 70,5 mm outside, 68 mm inside.
    Diameter : 2: 79,7 mm.
    Diameter : 3: 87,5 mm Rim

    Regards,
    K12E
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    Thank you.

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