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    Default Unknown russian 80x305 R

    I'm looking for information and drawings about this russian case.

    Length: 305 mm
    Width at the mouth: 80 mm

    Apparently it's a torpedo firing cartridge, but no actual proof was given until now.
    So..., who knows more ?
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    This should be a launching cartridge for depth charges or a torpedo expelling charge.
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    Hi,
    I think that it is for torpedoes.
    The depth charges would be too large.
    Does anyone have a pictures,drawings, information about firing cartridge of German/kriegsmarine/ torpedo ?.
    Sorry for my English.
    pozdr

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    Here's a firing cartridge for german torpedo's.

    German surface fired torpedo's were fired with compressed air; as a backup, a second system was installed which fired the torpedo using powder as propellant, in this system, a case was used as shown in the picture.
    The cases were available with 2 different charges: 600 and 850 grams.
    The remaining space inside the case was filled with cardboard and the case was closed with a transparant piece of plastic which was wrapped around the mouth of the case and secured with a piece of wire, hence the groove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zünder View Post
    Here's a firing cartridge for german torpedo's.
    Do you have more dimensions ?
    Caliber, diameter of base , exact length ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hesler View Post
    Do you have more dimensions ?
    Caliber, diameter of base , exact length ?
    @Hesler:

    Caliber: 80 mm
    Base diameter: 86 mm
    Length: 160 mm

    I'm still looking for the steel version of this one, so if anybody has one on offer....
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    I just found this picture, showing a launching cartridge being placed.
    By the looks of it it uses 2 primers.
    Anybody know if the Volksmarine used such a case as well ?

    Source: Manfred Schiffner: "Torpedobewaffnung", DDR 1987.
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    Hi Zunder,

    Maybe you can also reply to my thread on BOCN? Or if you are not a member, can I copy your answer? I just started investigating the actual use of this case.

    http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/thread...egsmarine-case

    Regards,

    Hoeksel

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    @Hoeksel: as long as you mention wk2ammo and/or place a link to this thread: no problem.

    But why don't you start the same thread here ? You might learn more.
    Lot's of knowledge here you know, just look at all the threads.
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    I am an active user both on BOCN and WK2Ammo, I rather stick to one thread personally. But I will put you answer and a link on their forum, that way members on both forums know where to go for info!

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