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    Default 10,5 cm Granate

    Hi,
    I have got this 10,5 cm grenade - it is 26 cm tall. Can anybody help by identifying it: country, age and for what use?

    Best regards,
    Ralle
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    10 cm Pzgr rot (10,5 cm Pzgr Flak)
    Germany WW2
    The projectile is incomplete.

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    Tyrion Lannister

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    Hello,

    -ralle : what is the origin of this shell ?

    -Bob : what is this color code ? (grey body and yellow band)

    Regards

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    Hi
    thanks for the Quick reply
    Is it only the germen who have used this type whit
    a "bodenzünder"
    regards
    ralle

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    Hi
    i found it in denmark
    i dont now anything about it
    regards
    ralle

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    Yes the colour coding is a puzzle.
    The closest is the German navy coding grey-blue yellow-white. That would be the coding for a Psgr which this projectile technically is.
    German defences in Denmark had a lot of coastal batteries with many different guns.
    I think they were operated by naval personnel.

    On the other hand the H Dv 170/21 says the 10,5 cm Pzgr. Patr. 32 Lh4 is painted black with red markings like the land forces ammunition (the manual lists only the single KPS band projectile).

    We need some of our Danish friends to tell us what weapons were kept in the post war inventory and how the ammunition was marked.

    So in my previous answer I went only with the shape.

    Cheers, Bob

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    AZ16 is offline Erfahrener Benutzer User
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    Thanks for your answer guys.

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    Hello,
    the 10 cm Pzgr. rot had one band (KPS) or two bands (FES) - see H Dv 170/21 - Version from 1943
    auf270

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    Hi on 270 It is true that in the manual of M.Dv. 170/21 (1943) (..not as stated by H.Dv. 170/21), exactly it's Blatt 8, is a drawing of a grenade ,, Pzgr.Patr. 32 Lh 4 ... ,, ie Pzgr rot with one rim (KPS). So far it is (with errors) correct there really is 1 bands.
    Acknowledge that the grenade you are looking for from the photo ad 1 is not drawn in this manual 1) take this into account.
    Look elsewhere ... I will help you when you have found the courage to respond with a statement.
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    For your education:
    Manual D / 460 +, (sheet G 201a) contains drawing 13C 1415 dated 4.5.1943 under the name ,, 10cm PZGr rot (10,5cm Pzgr Flak) ,, on which there are two versions of the first FES band (2 bands) or the second version of the KPS band (1 band).
    Then, of course, there are logically other regulations dealing with 10.5 cm Flak ammunition

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