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    Tony, those projectiles used were those of the Flak. While the case for the M42 was the C/36 in 37x250R but not to be confused with the Pak case which was different (the M42 used the same case as the C/36 gun which was similar in design but saw little service - likely becase in 1936 there was no imminent threat from the air to submarines).
    Do you have any information about the C/36 gun, or illustrations of it? The only illustration I know of is the sketch drawing in Skwiot's book (but he doesn't mention the gun in the text).

    I have no data at all concerning the gun, except that it was evidently based on the Bofors and used the same ammo as the later M42 (was the M42 just a refined version of the C/36?).

    It would be interesting to know the production dates of the ammo, how many guns were made, were they ever fitted to any warships, and of course any available technical data. This seems to be a mystery gun which is virtually unknown!
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    I am looking for information about headstamps for the Flak C/36 37 x 250R ammo. I understand that some cases are known which include "C/36" or "SK C/36". I would be very grateful for any photo or description of such a headstamp.

    Also, can anyone tell me which years of production are known in this calibre (from headstamps)?

    Thank you for any help.
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    Tony, here 2 headstamps from the internet.
    I remember we also discussed the subject here if one can find the thread(s).

    37x250R_C-36_M42_Navy_Germany.jpg

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    Thanks Alex!
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    I have a case made in 1945. The powder bags were stamped "3,7 cm SKC/36".

    Anyone has the ammunition Manual? And why is the ammunition marked C/36 when the gun is named Flak M42?
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    Thanks for the information.

    The 37 x 250R ammunition was first made in the mid-1930s for a naval gun designated the 3,7 cm SKC/36. Judging by illustrations, it was very similar in design and appearance to the Bofors 25mm and 40mm cannon, nothing like the land-based 3,7 cm Flak 36. Only a few were made and they saw little use.

    The Flak M42 was a later development, looking very much the same and using the same ammunition. I assume that the M42 is simply an improved version of the SKC/36, but I do not know how it differed.

    It would be interesting to know why Rheinmetall Borsig (responsible for all of these guns) developed naval cannon which were so different from the land-based ones, and why they chose not to use the 37 x 264B ammunition, despite the performance being more or less identical.

    Later, of course, the Flak M43 in 37 x 264B was produced in both land and naval mountings.
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    Hello Tony,

    very interesting! Have you ever seen a case earlier than 1944? The Polte made case from 1944 has lot no. 130 which means 1.3 million produced pieces. So there may be earlier years.
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    I assume that the vast majority of cases to survive would have been made for the M42, so would be dated from 1942 or 1943 onwards.

    If anyone knows of a 37 x 250R case dated in the 1930s I would love to hear about it!
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